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Obama 2008

by cato on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:34:57 AM PDT

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- From reading elsewhere on the site (2+ / 0-)
  
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  people are claiming that Dodd also capitulated on his promise to filibuster today.
  
  "The meek shall inherit nothing" - F. Zappa
  
  by cometman on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:11:32 AM PDT
  
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  - I don't think so (1+ / 0-)
    
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    He took the best deal he could get. Too many other Ds were willing to go against him.
    
    by Oxy Moron on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:47:09 AM PDT
    
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    - I'm no expert on the rules (3+ / 0-)
      
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      by any means, but doesn't it only take one determined Senator to filibuster?
      
      I like Dodd's persistence on this issue, but things have not played out as he promised they would from what I can tell.
      
      "The meek shall inherit nothing" - F. Zappa
      
      by cometman on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:53:55 AM PDT
      
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      - no (0+ / 0-)
        
        60 Senators can shut down a filibuster. Even if you don't have 40 allies, you can delay things, but only for a limited time.
        
        (If some Senators are absent, you still need 60 votes for cloture, which makes it a bit more excusable for candidates on the road not to return, but only a bit).
        
        by Joe Buck on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:36:57 AM PDT
        
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        Thanks. That makes sense. (0+ / 0-)
        
        Hopefully he will still be able to filibuster the final vote, as the commenter below suggested.
        
        "The meek shall inherit nothing" - F. Zappa
        
        by cometman on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:40:49 AM PDT
        
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        Did anyone else notice.... (0+ / 0-)
        
        how soon this diary left the rec list?
        
        I just checked and this diary has more recs in a shorter period of time than some of the diaries that are still there. I don't purport to know exactly how the reclist system works, but I was under the impression that a lot of recs in a short period of time would keep a diary up there for a while...
        
        "The meek shall inherit nothing" - F. Zappa
        
        by cometman on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:43:14 PM PDT
        
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      - I understood that once the amendments were... (1+ / 0-)
        
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        ...introduced and voted upperdown, the actual bill would come up for a vote. This is when Senator Dodd will filibuster. Somebody tell me if I'm wrong. Today the Dodd-Feingold amendment (No Telcom Immuntiy) was voted down. It's only one amendment. Doesn't the bill, in its entirety get voted on once the amendments are added (or not?)
        
        (¯`*._(¯`*._(-IMPEACH-)_.*´¯)_.*´¯) It's not too late!
        
        by nehark on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:38:07 AM PDT
        
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        McJoan just clarified on the FP. n/t (0+ / 0-)
        
        (¯`*._(¯`*._(-IMPEACH-)_.*´¯)_.*´¯) It's not too late!
        
        by nehark on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:46:43 AM PDT
        
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    by djtyg on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:10:27 AM PDT
    
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  - there was a vote to invoke cloture. (0+ / 0-)
    
    and it passed, with a supermajority, meaning more dems voted aye than nay. cloture means no more debate, means he couldn't filibuster anymore.
    
    by sophically on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:32:10 AM PDT
    
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    - Got it. Thanks. n/t (0+ / 0-)
      
      "The meek shall inherit nothing" - F. Zappa
      
      by cometman on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:43:38 AM PDT
      
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- Dodd, yes. Harry, no. (16+ / 0-)
  
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  Harry did such a good job of lining up the votes. Eleven Dem defectors, twelve if you count Holy Joe (I refuse to consider him). NOT ONE RETHUG defected. That speaks poorly to Harry's lack of leadership.
  
  by Hillbilly Dem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:21:07 AM PDT
  
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  - Things that speak poorly (13+ / 0-)
    
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    of Harry's leadership abilities could fill several volumes.
    
    Obama 2008
    
    by cato on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:34:06 AM PDT
    
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  - I know, right? (2+ / 0-)
    
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    And I know there are some Republicans who aren't buying this "we must protect America by protecting our friends at Verizon" BS. But SOMEONE in power has to frame it well. As, say, KO has framed it.
    
    ::shakes fists in despair::
    
    by sophically on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:35:07 AM PDT
    
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- Hillary is tougher. (1+ / 0-)
  
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  There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious...that you've got to put your bodies on the gears...and make it stop. -- Mario Savio
  
  by Boston Boomer on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:02:28 AM PDT
  
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  - She needs to be tested. (2+ / 0-)
    
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    The Hillary we have seen in the Senate so far has been one positioning herself for a general election Presidential run. If she gets beaten and reconciles herself to a long career in the Senate ala Ted Kennedy, we'll see what she's made of. I suspect that, once she let's go of presidential ambitions, she might be a great liberal Senator. We'll have to wait and see.
    
    In the meantime, Dodd has already proven himself.
    
    Chomsky Fever! John McCain sucks.
    
    by miasmo on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:31:19 AM PDT
    
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    - That's true. (0+ / 0-)
      
      I don't like her moving to the right, but realistically Obama has done the same in positioning himself to run. He's fortunate that he was not in the Senate at the time of the Iraq vote.
      
      I have a lot of respect for how hard Hillary has worked in the Senate, and she is a very good communicator. I love to watch her in Senate hearings.
      
      There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious...that you've got to put your bodies on the gears...and make it stop. -- Mario Savio
      
      by Boston Boomer on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:49:54 AM PDT
      
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or dodd (88+ / 0-)

From reading elsewhere on the site (2+ / 0-)

I don't think so (1+ / 0-)

I'm no expert on the rules (3+ / 0-)

no (0+ / 0-)

Thanks. That makes sense. (0+ / 0-)

Did anyone else notice.... (0+ / 0-)

I understood that once the amendments were... (1+ / 0-)

McJoan just clarified on the FP. n/t (0+ / 0-)

Hello, Mr. Stark (2+ / 0-)

there was a vote to invoke cloture. (0+ / 0-)

Got it. Thanks. n/t (0+ / 0-)

Dodd, yes. Harry, no. (16+ / 0-)

Things that speak poorly (13+ / 0-)

I know, right? (2+ / 0-)

Hillary is tougher. (1+ / 0-)

She needs to be tested. (2+ / 0-)

That's true. (0+ / 0-)

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