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UPDATE: ABC News' Sunlen Miller, traveling with the Obama campaign, reports that the ad has been running for approximately 10 days, according to the campaign. Asked why the campaign did not send out a media advisory about the ad, one aide said that there typically is not much media interest in radio advertising -- and kept a straight face. The campaign did put out a press release for a radio ad in October, to announce Obama's endorsement by Duffy Lyon, the sculptor of the famed "butter cow" at the Iowa State Fair.
UPDATE: ABC News' Sunlen Miller, traveling with the Obama campaign, reports that the ad has been running for approximately 10 days, according to the campaign. Asked why the campaign did not send out a media advisory about the ad, one aide said that there typically is not much media interest in radio advertising -- and kept a straight face.
The campaign did put out a press release for a radio ad in October, to announce Obama's endorsement by Duffy Lyon, the sculptor of the famed "butter cow" at the Iowa State Fair.
link: http://blogs.abcnews.com/...
"The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg
by grannyhelen on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:38:04 AM PDT
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-- the second paragraph, pointing out the lie in the first paragraph.
"Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon
by Cream City on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:41:36 AM PDT
"They're trying to fool you. They're trying to scare you. And they're not telling you the truth." Obama '08
by bawbie on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:48:20 AM PDT
Why are they hiding their light under a bushel basket? Campaigns, as a general rule, want to get all the publicity they can for ads. Why do they want this one to come in under the radar?
This ad, in and of itself, isn't that big of a deal. Taken in the context of so many other things that the Obama campaign has done lately, however, it becomes a much bigger deal.
Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?
by RFK Lives on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:09:06 AM PDT
by Cream City on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:58:18 AM PDT
was kind of funny.
There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious...that you've got to put your bodies on the gears...and make it stop. -- Mario Savio
by Boston Boomer on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:04:24 AM PDT
Trying to hide it and use it at the same time. That's why there was no link on the internet.
Thanks, grannyhelen.
"The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels." Al Gore, 7/17/08
by TomP on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:44:33 AM PDT
by grannyhelen on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:45:52 AM PDT
Yup, must be working, as a C-Span caller today spoke about how she hated that her adult kids, who have trouble making ends meet now... with the higher fuel costs, house and car, food, et cetera, are going to be FORCED to buy health insurance that they can't afford.
Take another look: McCain is not a flip-flopper - he's a pathological liar. Either that, or he's playing Jon Lovitz' character, Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket.
by gooderservice on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:39:57 AM PDT
Edwards is the only one of the three front-runners who has a universal health care plan that will lead to the single-payer kind all other civilized countries have. His plan doesn't go as fast as I would like, but he is the only one who has correctly pointed out that the health insurance companies are the enemy and should not have a seat at the table.
Link: http://www.michaelmoore.com/...
by grannyhelen on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:44:56 AM PDT
Do you think the Obama campaign will do oppo research on Moore like they did on Krugman?
by TomP on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:45:59 AM PDT
I'm sorry Bruce... these boys get that syrup in 'em, they get a little antsy in the pantsy. -Capt. John O'Hagen (Super Troopers)
by The House on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 07:50:17 AM PDT
by grannyhelen on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:05:28 AM PDT
"aiding and abetting the enemy" did he?
by bawbie on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:12:38 AM PDT
"Terror is nothing other than justice...; it is ... the general principle of democracy applied to our country's most urgent needs." M. Robespierre
by Bartimaeus Blue on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:20:22 AM PDT
That right-wing hooey sure stunk up the joint. --Steely Dan, "Jack of Speed"
by journalschism on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:00:36 AM PDT
obama and his minions would have us believe that paul krugman cant be trusted or that he is a stealth spoiler.
sorry, krugman's body of work far surpasses that of obama's. instead of smearing a true progressive obama should be listening very closely to people like krugman. in fact, if elected he should ask krugman to be an advisor ... someone who truly understands the issues and the politics of implementation. obama certainly doest have this understanding yet.
How dreadful knowledge of the truth can be when there's no help in the truth. Sophocles, Dedipus Rex
by bamabarrron on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:09:10 PM PDT
I had not seen that quote! I'm glad to see Michael Moore understands and approves of John's goals for universal healthcare!
I am puzzled, though, about why I hadn't heard this quote on the TV news.... Moore is often quoted, and it seems like this is something people would want to know about.
by bettync on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:07:45 AM PDT
Also, I'm wondering why it really matters what Moore thinks. He is a film-maker, not an economist, and I would much rather hear what Paul Krugman or Robert Reich have to say.
by msanthrope on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:19:59 AM PDT
the health industry in this country.
Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!
by barbwires on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:13:28 AM PDT
But economically speaking, I respect Michael Moore's views on healthcare more than Krugman or Reich. I wonder just how many people Krugman's personally met and how many of their stories he has gathered... unlike Michael Moore, who had spent two years doing research and reading thousands upon thousands of people's healthcare nightmare stories, meeting with them, following up on their stories, not to mention paying some of those people's healthcare bills.
Michael Moore gets it... just like I do. I'd also be interested in hearing Krugman's and Reich's personal injustices they've been dealt while trying to receive healthcare they couldn't afford. Or the desperately needed medicine that they couldn't afford to buy for their families. Oh, that's right. They can afford to pay out of pocket whenever they want.
And it doesn't take an economist to be able to know that if the middle"men" were taken out of healthcare delivery, and those billions that they received were put back into the people's pockets and the actual healthcare providers' pockets, less people would die.
by gooderservice on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:49:25 AM PDT
we ALL know that it is too expensive and too inaccessible. What we need now are workable solutions on how to broaden healthcare so that it covers the most people with the best care possible. Personal anecdotes are good at posing questions, but we are needing answers.
by msanthrope on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 10:49:11 AM PDT
What we need now are workable solutions on how to broaden healthcare so that it covers the most people with the best care possible.
I don't see it the way you do. All people should have healthcare at all times, period.
I am sick to death of people saying that healthcare plans need to be tailored to one's needs. That's bull. All that is saying is one person pays out of pocket more than another. There doesn't need to be multiple plans; only one, as every human body, for the most part, has the same organs, limbs, structures, et cetera.
Personal anecdotes are good at posing questions, but we are needing answers.
(My emphasis) We don't need answers; we need one solution. It's simple. Everyone above a certain income level pays into a fund that pays for all healthcare in this country. We don't need an economist to give us "answers." Everyone pays for defense, education, police, fire, roads, et cetera; we can all pay for healthcare in the same manner.
And people like -- no, Michael Moore brings our needs to the public discourse much better than any economist would.
by gooderservice on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 11:14:07 AM PDT
As far as I can tell its the same broken system we've been working under.
Obama doesn't make any sense. First, he says we have to let people opt out because they are too poor to pay for insurance(Hello? Poor folks ought to be subsidized like they would be in Edwards or Clinton's plan)then he says that if people don't get the health care and they get sick they'll have to pay a fine.(If they were too poor to pay for insurance to begin with what in the world makes him think it is progressive to penalize them for being too poor to afford health care and that they'll be able to afford a fine).
As far as I can tell Obama is all over the map and his plan doesn't even come close to addressing the needs of average Americans.
by cwaltz on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 11:20:05 AM PDT
largely be controlled by Congress.
Under the Obama plan, Congress has to offer up sufficient subsidies so coverage is either free or worth paying a small premium for.
Under some other plans, why should a Republican Congresscritter vote for a subsidy because the lower classes are going to have to buy coverage anyway.
by SingleVoter on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 07:27:35 AM PDT
consequence?
by lpeacock on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:22:15 AM PDT
That is CLASSIC, granny. Thanks!
by journalschism on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:59:38 AM PDT
wide narrow
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