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Part of me wants to experience the inside dirt they have to offer but that other part says that not a dime should go to a guy that knowingly lied to us at a time when our country was in such crisis.
I totally agree. I never buy these books but patiently wait my turn at the library. Yes, he does get payment for that one book, but they'd have a copy anyway. He just doesn't get my pennies.
on another topic...
Why would McClellan NOW tell everyone he lied? Is he that desperate to sell books? Not a single one of those sociopaths has an ounce of honesty or integrity.
Yes. There ARE progressive Democrats in Alabama. Visit with us at Left in Alabama
by countrycat on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:26:43 AM PDT
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by going to the library you are reducing the incentive for new books to be written
Incendiado para arriba, listo para irme.
by gobacktotexas on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:39:06 AM PDT
one of the best ideas humanity ever had. Sorry to disagree, but libraries buy a ton of books and influence book publishers.
Stop McCain.
by jancw on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:41:24 AM PDT
the chance to read any book they want.
by jancw on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:51:54 AM PDT
The stand alone electronic book was announced on Charlie Rose last night.
Newspapers and magazines signing on....13 dollars per month for subscriptions. While no more dead trees, also reduces access to those who cannot afford it big time.
Accessing information becomes more and more important and is really going to aggrevate the wage gap. There will be a big gap between those who know and those who have no way of knowing.
by yoduuuh do or do not on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:52:58 AM PDT
to influence book publishers? besides if you go the library you can get put on a really long waiting list and some of the books are counterfeit Canadian reproduction.
by gobacktotexas on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:55:09 AM PDT
and very independent. Read the librarians' code of ethics -- part of it is to provide balanced collections. That means representing both sides of arguments. Where else, these days, do you get people sworn to represent both sides? Not in the news business. ALA code of ethics
I'm living in a very poor state, but my local library is outstanding. The Friends group really works to bring in funds - I've never seen a Friends group that is so well organized to bring in the funds. We have over 22,000 children in our local summer reading program every summer, all funded by the Friends.
by jancw on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:03:25 AM PDT
"Our time has come, our movement is real, and change is coming to America."
by lizah on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:06:01 AM PDT
It threatened their interests even more directly than those of the public at large.
by rlochow on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:20:18 AM PDT
And, remember when the nat'l library group stood up to the Patriot Act, when they wanted to learn who had checked out certain books? I know they seem like a fairly benign group but they were going where no one else had the nerve to go.
by bebecca on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 08:28:58 AM PDT
in Texas are among the most liberal, free thinking people in their communities. They go to bat for our freedoms with great regularity.
The truth always matters.
by texasmom on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:04:37 AM PDT
who doesn't fit your description.
by gobacktotexas on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:09:06 AM PDT
and she's an embarassment to the profession.
by jancw on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:15:11 AM PDT
scumbag, anyway? The female Colin Powell.
Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the causes of destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest... Gibbon
by Dinclusin on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 12:57:45 PM PDT
Hate to tell you, if it weren't for nice reliable library sales, a lot fewer books would be written, not to mention read. That's why booksellers are usually big boosters of libraries. We train their customers.
John McCain--not so much old as obsolete.
by ohiolibrarian on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:45:03 AM PDT
concern troll. PUblic librarians have been among the strongest defenders of privacy and free speech.
by Heart of the Rockies on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:05:18 AM PDT
THIS librarian, of which he speaketh, is no guardian of freedom, has a VERY bad record behind the wheel of a car and is married to a real shitbird.
Hint: Initials are LB.
You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can ALWAYS be honest.
by mattman on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:29:37 AM PDT
by ellefarr on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:59:52 AM PDT
That's an unusual mental image.
The librarians I know are staunch defenders of civil liberties and anti-censorship in all forms.
Don't you remember the FBI memo that bemoaned interference from (and I quote):
Radical militant librarians
Here's a link.
Besides that, libraries help people who can't afford to buy a $30 book every time a good one comes out. Even paperbacks start at about $8 now.
Really, I've never met anyone who didn't appreciate public libraries. This is new for me.
by countrycat on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:15:23 AM PDT
he killed the Library Services and Construction Act, which used to provide federal funding for buildings and services.
One of the many reasons I hated him.
by jancw on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:21:57 AM PDT
They had fangs...they were drinking blood....They had this look in their eyes, totally animal. I think they were young Republicans. (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
by wrights on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:34:56 AM PDT
by jancw on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:15:34 AM PDT
Michael Moore?
Ann Sparanese is my hero!
Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.Give to Populista's Obamathon 2.0!
by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:02:05 AM PDT
....I thought you were serious, there. Nice snark.
by metal prophet on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:16:32 AM PDT
Rs complain loudly that universal health care is "socialized medicine" like that's bad, but they never complain about libraries (in fact, Laurabot is always talking about how wonderful libraries are).
by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:17:08 AM PDT
socialized institutions?
by sherlyle on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:29:41 AM PDT
thus far in history, though I see the point.
I'm not sure socialized bookstores are such a bad thing. If ideas come from a meritocracy, the less affluent should have an equal share in the "marketplace of ideas."
The law is slacked and judgment doth never go forth: the wicked compass about the righteous and wrong judgment proceedeth - Habakkuk 1:4
by vox humana on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:42:08 AM PDT
by going to DailyKos you are reducing the incentive for newspapers to be written
</snark>
(-7, -4.62) I'd rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don't want and get it. -Eugene V. Debs
by Cheney on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:43:57 AM PDT
love your username, btw. you should check out my old blog
www.ilovedickcheney.blogspot.com
by gobacktotexas on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:45:34 AM PDT
remembers to close their snark tags around here. Look at the trouble it causes when you forget.
The lone and level sands stretch far away. -Shelley
by justme on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 01:36:31 PM PDT
Just like affordable medicine will reduce the incentive for pharmacudical discovery ;)
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. -John Stuart Mill
by word player on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:44:47 AM PDT
If they don't have to pay so much for R&D, then there is even more money available for advertising!
/snark
The Prince of Peace has been usurped by the God of War.
by Spoc42 on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 06:24:16 AM PDT
i spent countless afternoons in the library as a kid. they work well, and they provide a valuable service to people who can't afford to buy every book they want to read.
but libaries have been around for a while, and new books keep coming out. where does this knee-jerk anti-socialized anything response come from? where something works in a socialized setting, fine. where the market work, fine.
i like my air, water, food, transportation, military, etc... to be socialized too. that is to say, i like to pay my share and cooperate with the people around me to be able to enjoy things i can't afford on an individual basis.
should i and my neighbors each shell out for water testing services and purification? maybe i'll buy a fighter jet and he'll buy a tank?
by bribone on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:00:03 AM PDT
Can I move to your 'hood? 'Cause, like, if you can afford a fighter and he can afford a tank, y'all can secede.
I'm another Edwards Democrat
by BlackSheep1 on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 12:06:46 PM PDT
I love our local libraries and use them extensively. It doesn't stop me from buying books. It's a shame that more people don't use them, and that people like yourself have such attitudes.
Grandpa Simpson is a cartoon character...John McCain is an actual person...
by wry twinger on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:02:30 AM PDT
snark that was included in Moore's documentary SiCKO. For those who criticize universal health insurance as socialized medicine, Moore pointed out that in the U.S. we have socialized police departments, socialized fire departments, socialized libraries, etc. Why haven't we turned into the USSR from all these socialized public institutions?
"Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say, 'I need to quit drinking!'" - Greasy Grant
by Greasy Grant on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:07:17 AM PDT
Maybe I'm short on humor this morning. It happens!
by countrycat on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:16:56 AM PDT
but snark needs to at least have a snarky-like edge to it...I mean look at my user name...I have to temper everything I say so that people will realize I'm being sarcastic!
by wry twinger on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:25:50 AM PDT
one of the characters on Teletubbies was gay, and he seriously meant it, he ruined everybody's snark detector for all time. Damn you, Pat Robertson!!!
by Greasy Grant on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:41:38 AM PDT
You'll pull my library card out of my cold-dead hands.
I can understand how someone could miss the snark - I did. I have indeed heard people on the right who wanted to get rid of libraries. Partly because of rabid anti-government sentiment, and partly because you can actually read something liberal there. The right has never wanted "balance", they want it to be impossible to ever be exposed to a liberal idea.
It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
by A Citizen on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:56:33 PM PDT
still buy books. Hell, I've got so many books that I'm thinking of putting up shelves along my outer walls and using them as insulation.
But I still use my local library. It's awesome. They're part of a system that can get you almost any title you want, even ones that are out of print, even texts from the state university's library, all for free. Tapes and DVDs, too. You can't beat that.
People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election. --Otto von Bismarck
by Ice Blue on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:44:22 AM PDT
</snark>
by justme on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 01:39:11 PM PDT
another public good?
From what I know, we're awash in new books. I think there's plenty of incentive to write them, although most don't make money and this has always been true.
Yesterday the NY Times had an article about the correlation between doing poorly in school and not reading for pleasure. We need books to be widely available. Not everyone can buy them. Perhaps the ones who could benefit most are the least able to buy them.
by Heart of the Rockies on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:03:20 AM PDT
*John McCain is aware of the Internet*
by MichaelPH on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:06:24 AM PDT
as mentioned during the TCR interview with kos, his username is notstephencolbert!
watch the video--Stephen also gets in a dig at librarians!
by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:52:45 AM PDT
This post stands alone as a shining, glorious monument to utter and absolute idiocy. Please tell me that you're kidding.
They're calling our bluff and all we're holding is a Pelosi and a Hoyer.
by arbiter on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:09:58 AM PDT
s/he is being snarky (see the part about counterfeit Canadian reproductions). But I could be wrong.
AAPI Wellesley grad in Austin for Obama! Travis County delegate, Pct. 277 - 3/29
by lirtydies on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:15:40 AM PDT
like there are a lot of snarkometers malfunctioning as a result of the expectation of the tryptophan haze that will descend on Thursday.
by justme on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 01:44:07 PM PDT
If you want to encourage books to be written, buy Valarie Plame Wilson's Fair Game. Pages 224-227 will tell you all you need to know about Scotty.
Note to Cheney on fall elections: "This is our due."
by NepentheRising on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:20:02 AM PDT
Perhaps, just perhaps, the benefit to soceity of public education, public libraries, public sanititation, and that sort of stuff outweighs the cost of lost revenue.
Maximizing profits should not be confused with the creation of wealth.
I also suspect that those authors who decided against writing a book because it would be made available in a public library wouldn't be worth reading anyway.
Profits are also not a good indicator of value. As an example I point you to the collect works of Rush Limbaugh. (Note to publisher: I would like Rush's books a lot more if the pages were perforated, perhaps two-ply.)
Live to create the world you want to live in.
by beerm on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:35:45 AM PDT
by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:53:34 AM PDT
Eventually I think the republicans would like to see for profit schools as the norm.
Still, its a bit of a hard sell so, right now they are focusing on removing education from the schools using the 'No Child Left Behind' act.
Once they get education seperated from the schools, then they can focus on getting rid of the schools.
by beerm on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:54:59 AM PDT
If it were not for libraries, there would be many books that simply would not get published.
Libraries are a vital attribute to an educated citizenry.
Some pulp fiction and non-fiction will always appeal to the masses. But how many published books ever see the light of day at a book store?
Sorry, but I think publishers like to have library systems buying multiple copies of their best sellers as well as buying the arcane, low volume titles. Not every book is a best seller and libraries play a vital role in creating demand for low volume editions.
With leaders like Bush and Pelosi, who needs enemies?
by SpiffPeters on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:10:32 AM PDT
You can do it selectively, right?
by rlochow on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:17:58 AM PDT
over and over as years go by. Other than the works of my favorite authors, I never buy a book I haven't taken out of the library first. Thus the library has given countless authors the chance to sell books to me, and in many cases, to become my favorites.
McCain '08: Same crap, different asshole. -- Hunter
by snazzzybird on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:59:57 AM PDT
"There -- it's -- you know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --GWB
by denise b on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 06:52:48 PM PDT
wide narrow
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