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Did Scotty just accuse the president of outing a CIA agent?
Shouldn't this be HUGE?
by karenc13 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 06:58:10 AM PDT
It sounds like he is accusing Bush of ordering him to lie about the whole thing to the press.
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by quaoar on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:04:21 AM PDT
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It doesn't sound like McClellan knew he was lying.
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by Adam B on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:07:32 AM PDT
Upon rereading it sounds like he is saying Bush, Cheney, et al lied to him and he didn't realize it.
by quaoar on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:15:12 AM PDT
Of course they were going to lie to him. He's not a good liar, so the only way he's going to remotely sound convincing is if he doesn't know the truth.
I can just hear Cheney - You can't handle the truth!
by mmacdDE on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:36:03 AM PDT
he was being lied to? Wouldn't that be our next logical question?
Was it while Libby and Rove were still in the HOT seat?
Anyone know?
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by Terre on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:57:33 AM PDT
is the question. And through what means, specifically did he realize it?
by nancelot on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:39:51 AM PDT
Scotty passes the buck.
Bush isn't implicated in anything but peddling crap and that's not news.
"It's the planet, stupid."
by FishOutofWater on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:15:25 AM PDT
should be as serious as covering up the break-in of your political opponents' HQ. In the age of the GWOT, it's arguably more serious.
Nixon was driven from office for doing something that W will get away w/.
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by RFK Lives on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:27:53 AM PDT
in a public investigatory hearing.
by Clio2 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:44:38 AM PDT
what is there to cover up?
Bush should be impeached for not supporting the Constitution. He is a traitor against the very principles upon which this country was founded.
He should be impeached for starting a war of aggression against international treaties we have signed.
He should be impeached for approving torture.
The list goes on.
Covering up these crimes is an issue but it's not as important as the crimes themselves.
Bush was responsible for outing Plame whether he knew about it or not. He was the boss. The same is true of the cover up. The cover up is secondary here to the original crimes. This is worse than Watergate.
by FishOutofWater on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:46:13 AM PDT
is the puppeteer here. Bush is simply one of his many puppets.
Kucinich has the right idea, and has had it all along. H RES 333--IMPEACH CHENEY--that will lead to the entire house of cards falling down on the rest of the crime syndicate, including Bush.
On second thought , let's not go to Camelot. 'Tis a silly place
by o the umanity on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:49:14 AM PDT
He should have pissed on the Constitution by declaring himself above the law and then gotten his cronies to pass retroactive legislation making his actions legal. It's a no-brainer. Laws are irrelevant when there's only one branch of government.
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by ShowMe Indie on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:03:02 AM PDT
It's hard to get the whole context of what he might be saying from that one release quote. I suppose we can take our pick between: (1) Stupid Scotty who didn't have the brain power to realize he was being lied to (2) Cunning Scotty who knew they knew that he knew he was being lied too, but figured he would get away with it as luck was going their way thus far.
by leckavrea on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:35:08 AM PDT
Plus Door #3 all of these books from all of the 'formers' need to be Dewey Decimaled under 'self-defense'.
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by deMemedeMedia on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:51:29 AM PDT
I thought you said Dewey Decimated.
by leckavrea on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:45:40 AM PDT
by rlochow on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:54:32 AM PDT
...just marketing his book
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by Lipstick Liberal on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:06:59 AM PDT
I didn't have ANY insider info or clearance and even I could tell you they were lying and I'd bet my house on it.
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by Bexley Lane on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:38:52 AM PDT
just that they were "involved", perhaps unwittingly.
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by jethropalerobber on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:21:06 AM PDT
...we're looking for is: Conspiracy
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by MichaelPH on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:09:10 AM PDT
-6.5, -7.59. Dump Harry Reid. Put in someone who can rid us of Holy Joe Lieberman.
by DrWolfy on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:20:46 AM PDT
I mean, they are the Bush Crime Family and all.
by MichaelPH on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:32:55 AM PDT
"I did not out that agent - Ms. Plame" was a lie, that means the truth is: what?
by MyBrainWorks on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:13:02 AM PDT
to shut his trap.
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by ROGNM on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:04:47 AM PDT
a la Nixon - the falsehood McClellan was peddling was that Rove and Libby had nothing to do with it.
by Hprof on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:05:13 AM PDT
no - he accused the president of covering up
That's what Scooter was guilty of. Let's charge George too. This could have some meaning as far as impeachment is concerned.
by victoria2dc on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:00:02 AM PDT
seeing as how he said THIS about the leaker(s).
"If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is," Bush told reporters at an impromptu news conference during a fund-raising stop in Chicago, Illinois. "If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of. "I welcome the investigation. I am absolutely confident the Justice Department will do a good job. "I want to know the truth," the president continued. "Leaks of classified information are bad things." He added that he did not know of "anybody in my administration who leaked classified information."
"If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is," Bush told reporters at an impromptu news conference during a fund-raising stop in Chicago, Illinois. "If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.
"I welcome the investigation. I am absolutely confident the Justice Department will do a good job.
"I want to know the truth," the president continued. "Leaks of classified information are bad things."
He added that he did not know of "anybody in my administration who leaked classified information."
Regardless of whether or not Scotty did or did not know they were lying, the fact that the POTUS was involved and knew about it is huge.
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by DJShay on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:51:26 AM PDT
If Democrats can't effectively communicate the significance of this revelation to the American people, they're more incompetent than I have feared.
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by The Termite on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:09:01 AM PDT
to describe the last 7 years, "culture of criminality" should be used. Pound that phrase into every debate, interview and media event. There's your bumper sticker slogan for 2008.
by DJShay on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:14:42 AM PDT
by The Termite on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:43:43 AM PDT
by DJShay on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:56:55 AM PDT
Corruption is more like it. They don't want these things to be issues.
For the life of me I can't understand why not. But there's not much room left for doubt of that now.
by rlochow on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:59:47 AM PDT
.. using the Nixonian justification, if the President orders it leaked, it is by definition no longer classified.
Coming soon to a courtroom near you, you better believe it.
by Craziel on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:14:54 AM PDT
but it's only the Vice President who can declassify something that way.
by Clio2 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:06:18 AM PDT
it's not illegal.
by DrWolfy on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:20:06 AM PDT
They burn our children in their wars and grow rich beyond the dreams of avarice.
by Limelite on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:11:48 AM PDT
it's not a crime." I would love to here TGDSOBGWB say that.
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by william f harrison on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 12:33:17 PM PDT
Ya lost me. I am guessing that GWB is the Chimp but otherwise, I have no idea what you said.
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by Dave from Oregon on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 01:08:49 PM PDT
The Great Decider SOB GWB.
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by western star on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 02:32:44 PM PDT
I have no idea if it is correct or not.
Thanks
by Dave from Oregon on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 03:47:56 PM PDT
wide narrow
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